Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe
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Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Jun 10, 2026 · 1h 21m

About this episode

<p>DADS. What makes a good one? What if you had a bad one? And how can fatherhood turn the tides on toxic masculinity? Also: diapers. The brilliant USC research psychologist,  fatherhood expert, and thus Paternologist Dr. Darby Saxbe covers everything from prehistoric family systems to social media expectations as we chat about male hormones during and after pregnancy, division of labor, dad bods, gorillas, TV dads, seahorses, trans dads, oxytocin, gender reveals, and how it truly takes a community to raise a kid. Her brand new book is  “Dad Brain: The New Science of Fatherhood and How it Shapes Men's Lives,” and it’s great reading for anyone who was the result of a sperm and egg. Including frogs.</p> <p>Visit Dr. Saxbe’s <a href="https://www.darbysaxbe.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">website</a> and follow her on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/darbysaxbephd/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/darbysaxbe.bsky.social" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://darbysaxbe.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Substack</a>, and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@darbysaxbephd" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a></p> <p>Buy her book, <a href="https://www.darbysaxbe.com/dadbrain" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Dad Brain: The New Science of Fatherhood and How It Shapes Men’s Lives</i></a></p> <p>A donation went to <a href="https://homeboyindustries.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Homeboy Industries</a></p> <p><a href="https://zachbogart.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Zach Bogart</a>’s “Oh hey” cataloguer site <a href="https://ohheyitsthe.site/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ohheyitsthe.site</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/paternology" rel="noopener noreferrer">More episode sources and links</a></p> <p>Other episodes you may enjoy: <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/pridemonth" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pride Month: Guests to Know and Love</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/genealogy" rel="noopener noreferrer">Genealogy (FAMILY TREES)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/matrimoniology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Matrimoniology (MARRIAGE)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/evolutionary-biology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Evolutionary Biology (DARWINISM)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/trolleyology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/personalitypsychology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Personality Psychology (PERSONALITIES)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/molecularneurobiology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Molecular Neurobiology (BRAIN CHEMICALS)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/neuroendocrinology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Neuroendocrinology (SEX & GENDER)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/sexology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sexology (SEX)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/biogerontology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Biogerontology (AGING)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/mammalogy" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mammalogy (MAMMALS)</a>, <a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies/dasyurology" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dasyurology (TASMANIAN DEVILS)</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.alieward.com/ologies-by-topic" rel="noopener noreferrer">400+ Ologies episodes sorted by topic</a></p> <p><a href="https://pod.link/1746567248" rel="noopener noreferrer">Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes</a></p> <p><a href="https://alieward.com/ologies-sponsors" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sponsors of Ologies</a></p> <p><a href="https://alieward.com/ologies-extras" rel="noopener noreferrer">Transcripts and bleeped episodes</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/ologies" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Become a patron of Ologies</a> for as little as a buck a month</p> <p><a href="https://www.ologiesmerch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">OlogiesMerch.com</a> has hats, shirts, hoodies, totes!</p> <p>Follow Ologies on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ologies" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/ologies.bsky.social" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bluesky</a></p> <p>Follow Alie Ward on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alieward" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@alie_ologies" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a></p> <p>Editing by Mercedes Maitland of <a href="http://maitlandaudio.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Maitland Audio Productions</a> and <a href="https://www.jecmusic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jake Chaffee</a></p> <p>Managing Director: Susan Hale</p> <p>Scheduling Producer: Noel Dilworth</p> <p>Transcripts by Aveline Malek </p> <p>Website by <a href="https://www.kellyrdwyer.com/photo" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kelly R. 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