672.  What Makes Judy Faulkner Run?
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672. What Makes Judy Faulkner Run?

Apr 24, 2026 · 1h 0m

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<p>Epic Systems manages the electronic health records for hundreds of millions of people. This makes Faulkner a healthcare heavyweight and one of the most successful female entrepreneurs in history. So why haven’t we ever heard much from her? Stephen Dubner travels to Verona, Wisc., to explore the Faulknerverse.</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li><strong>SOURCES:</strong> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.epic.com/about/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Judy Faulkner</a>, C.E.O. and founder of Epic Systems.</li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethhoward/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Seth Howard</a>, executive vice president of research and development at Epic Systems.</li> </ul></li> </ul> <p> </p> <ul> <li><strong>RESOURCES:</strong> <ul> <li>"<a href="https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/epic-systems-mychart" rel="noopener noreferrer">Epic Systems (MyChart)</a>," by <i>Acquired</i> (2025).</li> <li>"<a href="https://www.wpr.org/news/federal-antitrust-lawsuit-against-epic-systems-move-forward" rel="noopener noreferrer">Federal antitrust lawsuit against Wisconsin-based Epic Systems will move forward</a>," by Joe Schulz <i>(Wisconsin Public Radio,</i> 2025).</li> <li>"<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/16/how-epics-82-year-old-ceo-judy-faulkner-built-her-software-factory.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bill Gates meets Willy Wonka: How Epic’s 82-year-old billionaire CEO, Judy Faulkner, built her software factory</a>," by Ashley Capoot <i>(CNBC,</i> 2025).</li> <li>"<a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=66399" rel="noopener noreferrer">Epic: The Future of Health Information Technology</a>," by Regina Herzlinger and Brian Walker <i>(Harvard Business School,</i> 2024).</li> </ul></li> </ul> <p> </p> <ul> <li><strong>EXTRAS:</strong> <ul> <li>"<a href="https://freakonomics.com/podcast/can-a-i-save-your-life/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Can A.I. Save Your Life?</a>" by <i>Freakonomics Radio </i>(2026).</li> <li>"<a href="https://freakonomics.com/podcast/how-to-fix-the-hot-mess-of-u-s-healthcare-ep-456/" rel="noopener noreferrer">How to Fix the Hot Mess of U.S. Healthcare</a>," by <i>Freakonomics Radio </i>(2021).</li> </ul></li> </ul><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>