Shell Game: Minimum Viable Company
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Shell Game: Minimum Viable Company

Dec 5, 2025 · 39 min

About this episode

<p>A year ago we brought you a show called Shell Game where a journalist named Evan Ratliff made an AI copy of himself. Now on season 2 of the show, Evan’s using AI to do more than just mimic himself — he’s starting a company staffed entirely by AI agents, and making a podcast about the experience. The show is a smart, funny, and truly bizarre look at what AI can do—and what it can’t. </p><p>This week we bring you the first episode of Shell Game Season Two, Minimum Viable Company. You can sign up to get the rest of the Shell Game ad-free, and the Shell Game newsletter, at <a href="http://shellgame.co">shellgame.co</a> .</p><p><br /><strong>EPISODE CREDITS: </strong><br /><br /><strong>Shell Game </strong><br />Hosted by Evan Ratliff, <br />Produced and edited by Sophie Bridges. <br />Shell Game’s Technical Advisor Matty Bohacek <br />Executive Produced by Samantha Henig, Kate Osborn and Mangesh Hattikudur at Kaleidoscope<br />and Katrina Norvell at IHeart Podcasts.<br /><br /><strong>Radiolab portions </strong><br />Hosted by Simon Adler <br />Produced by Mona Madgavkar.</p><p><i>Sign up for our newsletter!! It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. </i><a href="https://radiolab.org/newsletter"><i>Signup</i></a><i> (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)!</i></p><p><i>Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of </i><a href="http://members.radiolab.org"><i>The Lab</i></a><i> (https://members.radiolab.org/) today.</i></p><p><i>Follow our show on </i><a href="http://instagram.com/radiolab"><i>Instagram</i></a><i>, </i><a href="http://twitter.com/radiolab"><i>Twitter</i></a><i> and </i><a href="http://facebook.com/radiolab"><i>Facebook</i></a><i> @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing </i><a href="mailto:radiolab@wnyc.org"><i>radiolab@wnyc.org</i></a><i>.</i></p><p><i>Leadership support for Radiolab’s science programming is provided by the Simons Foundation and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.</i></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>