JD Vance on Iran, the right’s split, and faith—plus a lawyer challenges the 1/5 bomber case
Based on the show notes, this episode pairs a wide-ranging interview with Vice President JD Vance and a legal defense perspective on the alleged January 5 pipe bomber case. Expect discussion of the proposed Iran deal, fractures on the right, Vance’s return to faith, and disputed facts surrounding Brian Cole Jr.’s arrest.
## Preview This episode appears to be split into two distinct conversations, based on the published show notes rather than the audio itself. First, Vice President JD Vance joins to discuss the proposed new Iran deal and the political arguments surrounding it. The notes suggest a focus on what the agreement would actually do, what economic benefits Iran might receive if it complies, and what could happen if the regime refuses to cooperate. The conversation also seems aimed at the debate inside the American right: backlash from neoconservatives, frustration from some non-interventionists, and Vance’s view that critics should stay engaged within the Trump coalition. The notes also indicate a more personal turn, with Vance discussing his book *Communion*, his return to God and faith, and the role marriage and family played in that journey. The second segment shifts sharply into legal and political controversy. Mario Williams, counsel for Brian Cole Jr., speaks about the facts of his client’s case, including whether the alleged January 5 “bombs” were viable or more like props, the circumstances of the arrest, the evidence against Cole Jr., and questions surrounding an alleged confession. The notes also point to discussion of autism, race, double standards, a possible plea deal, and whether Cole Jr. could qualify for a Trump January 6 pardon. If you’re deciding whether to listen, this looks like an episode for listeners interested in foreign policy debate, coalition politics on the right, religious testimony, and a defense-side view of a high-profile criminal case.
About this episode
<p>Vice President JD Vance, author of "Communion," joins to talk about what's really in the proposed new Iran deal, the economic benefits Iran could receive if it complies with the agreement, what happens if the regime refuses to cooperate, the backlash from neocons over the new Iran peace deal, what's being misrepresented about the agreement, the truth about what happens next in Lebanon and the broader Middle East, the divide on the right over the Iran war, why some non-interventionists are frustrated with the administration, why VP Vance believes critics should remain engaged in the Trump coalition, his journey back to God and faith, why the goal for success and money left him searching for something more meaningful, how marriage and family helped strengthen his beliefs, and more. Then Mario Williams, counsel for Brian Cole Jr., to talk about the facts of the case and the arrest of his client, whether the alleged January 5 "bombs" were even viable or if they were more like "props," the circumstances of the notable failed polygraph of another person of interest in the case, the government putting out video and other evidence publicly, Jeanine Pirro's noteworthy comments about the case, Cole Jr's autism and the circumstances of the arrest, the alleged "confession" while being interrogated, the evidence against Cole Jr., a possible plea deal, why it's notable the government started referring to him as the "January 5th bomber,"why Williams believes Cole Jr. qualifies for Trump's January 6 pardon, questions about race and double standards, the exact language of the pardon, and more.</p> <p><br> </p> <p>VP JD Vance- <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Communion-Finding-Way-Back-Faith/dp/B0GTQMJ53N" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.amazon.com/Communion-Finding-Way-Back-Faith/dp/B0GTQMJ53N</a></p> <p>Williams- <a href="https://www.hdrattorneys.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.hdrattorneys.com/</a></p> <p><br> </p> <p>Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get a free America 250 silver round with qualifying purchase</p> <p>Brooklyn Bedding: Upgrade your sleep with Brooklyn Bedding—Visit <a href="https://brooklynbedding.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://brooklynbedding.com</a> and use promo code MEGYN for 30% off sitewide!</p> <p>Herald Group: Learn more at <a href="https://guardyourcard.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://GuardYourCard.com</a></p> <p><strong>Relief Factor: Reclaim your mobility and celebrate your freedom from aches this year by grabbing your $17.76 3-week QuickStart at </strong><a href="https://relieffactor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://ReliefFactor.com</strong></a><strong> or by calling 800-4-RELIEF.</strong></p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:</p> <p><br> YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly</a></p> <p>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/MegynKellyShow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow</a></p> <p>Instagram: <a href="http://instagram.com/MegynKellyShow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow</a></p> <p>Facebook: <a href="http://facebook.com/MegynKellyShow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow</a></p> <p><br> Find out more information at:<br><a href="https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow</a></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>